Curse

Lord Mendes · Feb 16, 2007, 06:39 PM // 18:39

[Neo], a guild that usually runs with 4 heroes, just beat [eF] with a heroway discord spike on imperial isle. Basically Neo's team consists of 4 real players (2 N/rt, 1 E/mo, 1 M) and 4 heroes (N/Rt). What happens is that the two real necros on Neo cast a condition and a hex on one target from eF, and the heroes will all spike with discord as soon as the target has both on him. Basically the conditions and hexes are spread by the N/Rts, and someone from eF gets spiked for loads of damage every 2 seconds. Heroes are great at spamming and coordinating skills in this case, and the results are pretty deadly. Hit obs if you think this is a joke.
The game against eF was over in about 4 minutes.
Discuss.

Snype · Feb 16, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

to further display the horror...

IZZY WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!

Lord Mendes · Feb 16, 2007, 06:48 PM // 18:48

NOTE:
1) Seppo and jim were monking. Get better monks argument is invalid IMO.
2) eF most likely had a mesmer with diversion.
3) I was wrong. 7 minutes, not 4, but still shocking :P

Snype · Feb 16, 2007, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Mendes

NOTE:
1) Seppo and jim were monking. Get better monks argument is invalid IMO.
2) eF most likely had a mesmer with diversion.
3) I was wrong. 7 minutes, not 4, but still shocking :P

They were running diversion, with mantra of recovery if I'm not mistaken, and the monks certainly were fine. The spike is just too overpowered.

BTW, i heard that they also beat [sM] yesterday with the same build, although I'm not sure if thats true or not.

Franco Power · Feb 16, 2007, 06:54 PM // 18:54

Their Mesmer didn't have MoR, the mesmer had Energy Surge, and Yes he also had Diversion, please do not question the monking as you have no idea what the huge pressure that build gives, I watched at the last minut of the guild lord, Jim didn't have a clue what to do with 20 minuts behind him, and who can blame him? I also watched the match against sM, Neo has been running this since last night and always heroway, beating many top 100 guilds, it is really sick pressure.

Yanman.be · Feb 16, 2007, 06:57 PM // 18:57

They also beat us. Only difference is that we nearly beat them too...like 5% of GL life left

Snype · Feb 16, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Power

Their Mesmer didn't have MoR, the mesmer had Energy Surge, and Yes he also had Diversion, please do not question the monking as you have no idea what the huge pressure that build gives, I watched at the last minut of the guild lord, Jim didn't have a clue what to do with 20 minuts behind him, and who can blame him? I also watched the match against sM, Neo has been running this since last night and always heroway, beating many top 100 guilds, it is really sick pressure.

Who questioned monking? Please read before crit plz

It IS huge pressure. However, they shouldnt be allowed to bring 4 heroes into GvG anyway. It goes along the same lines as the HA hero problem.

20 minutes after the [eF] win:

Blame the Monks · Feb 16, 2007, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Yet another retarded imba skill. Anet wanted people to play necs, rits, and asses and they got their wish -- too bad they only thing they are good for is annoying gimmicky spikes. If only anet would have listened when we all told them why the changes were horrid. =/

Please delete para, ass, rit, derv, and necro from the game until their extended beta test is over. Oh, and FIX THE GAME PLEASE, IZZY! NOT NEXT MONTH, NOW!

Metanoia · Feb 16, 2007, 07:03 PM // 19:03

If it's not already down from obs mode... Open up eF's party window and watch the game on eF's #3 /w draw. It might have gone differently if he was playing as he was towards the end from the beginning.

*shrugs*

Franco Power · Feb 16, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snype

Who questioned monking? Please read before crit plz

It IS huge pressure. However, they shouldnt be allowed to bring 4 heroes into GvG anyway. It goes along the same lines as the HA hero problem.

wow Did I quote you? No,

Was I saying you criticised their monking? No

I was saying that that build is sick and the AI is overpowered and not the eF players fault.

Please read before making assumptions and saying that they had a MoR mesmer when they had a E-surge, plz

Ec]-[oMaN · Feb 16, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Power

Their Mesmer didn't have MoR, the mesmer had Energy Surge, and Yes he also had Diversion, please do not question the monking as you have no idea what the huge pressure that build gives, I watched at the last minut of the guild lord, Jim didn't have a clue what to do with 20 minuts behind him, and who can blame him? I also watched the match against sM, Neo has been running this since last night and always heroway, beating many top 100 guilds, it is really sick pressure.

They've been playing it all week, yeah it's nasty, I've played against it twice. Just another build that needs the boot.

Lord Mendes · Feb 16, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Power

please do not question the monking as you have no idea what the huge pressure that build gives.

lrn2reedplx!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Mendes

1) Seppo and jim were monking. Get better monks argument is invalid IMO.

Franco Power · Feb 16, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

lrn2rightplx!

Prizewinning · Feb 16, 2007, 07:08 PM // 19:08

i think conzpi is a bad mesmer

Lord Mendes · Feb 16, 2007, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Power

lrn2rightplx!

lol. <3
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Prizewinning · Feb 16, 2007, 07:11 PM // 19:11

i dont care these guys beating everyone up, they made the build like this than they may use it.... as long as not all the other nubc*kes are gonna copy this its ok imo.

but....

people will copy the build so mayB it is pretty crap

Made In Ascalon · Feb 16, 2007, 07:13 PM // 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blame the Monks

Yet another retarded imba skill. Anet wanted people to play necs, rits, and asses and they got their wish -- too bad they only thing they are good for is annoying gimmicky spikes. If only anet would have listened when we all told them why the changes were horrid. =/

Please delete para, ass, rit, derv, and necro from the game until their extended beta test is over. Oh, and FIX THE GAME PLEASE, IZZY! NOT NEXT MONTH, NOW!

Dude, quit being so overdramatic. Discord is so powerful because getting a hex and condition to stick on a target is a lot harder for humans than it is for heros. This would easily be fixed by limiting the number of heros allowed in gvg, as someone already said, like in HA.

As for everything else, your "LOL DELETE EVERYTHING LOL" attitude is unrealistic and unhelpful.

Made In Ascalon · Feb 16, 2007, 07:15 PM // 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco Power

wow Did I quote you? No,

Was I saying you criticised their monking? No

I was saying that that build is sick and the AI is overpowered and not the eF players fault.

Please read before making assumptions and saying that they had a MoR mesmer when they had a E-surge, plz

Just curious, who were you directing the original comment at?
...no one?

Franco Power · Feb 16, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23

future people that would come in this thread and say, omfg they sucked, my guild would so beat heroway nubs!!

Wasteland Squidget · Feb 16, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

We faced a similar spike on Burning Isle. Got wiped in only a few minutes, with no way to consistently disrupt the spike. With the spammability of degen hexes and conditions, keeping people clean is also nearly impossible.

I'm sure Izzy meant well though. I mean, how could he have known that a skill dealing 100+ damage on a 1s cast and a 2s recharge would be used for spiking?